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    OK but in all honesty what is he supposed to? The regime doesn’t give a shit what’s allowed and what’s not. At this point the best thing he can do is rally the people to get out onto the streets as much as possible. He has power at the state level (which they don’t give a fuck about), not at the federal level.

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      Have the police arrest ice terrorists, mobilize the guard and force ice out. Withhold all money to the federal government.

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        Omg, if Walz started using the national guard to arrest the ICE thugs, unmask them, take photos and document each individual criminal and make a database of them - he’d become a legend overnight.

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          That would almost certainly kick off an actual formal civil war.

          Because if that started happening… the President would assert his authority over the Minnesota branch of the national guard.

          And at that moment… basically every member of any kind of armed government agency would basically have to pick sides.

          Because the way the national guard is legally set up in the US… is complicated, but basically, both the President and State Governors can give them direct orders.

          Like uh, for the past 20 years, a fair number of Guardsmen/women, well they’ve been serving in Iraq and Afghanistan and what not, because they can be called up to do that, they’re part of the Army, basically.

          They don’t just operate only within their own state or within the US.

          And… the President ultimately controls the Army.

          But Governors can also call up the Guard.

          So… yeah…

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            Didn’t Heritage Foundation president Kevin Roberts already say, ‘we are in the process of the second American Revolution, which will remain bloodless if the left allows it to be’?

            So really the blue states would just be kind of getting on with it?

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              Yes, that did happen, but liberals, mainline Democrats, even many self-described leftists just pretend that didn’t happen, or don’t take it seriously at all, do not fully comprehend what that means.

              Well, now we are a few more years and months into that, and… we are unfortunately having to learn the hard way that when fascists tell you they love and are going to do violence, well they’re going to keep doing it untill you beat their capacity to do so out of them.

              But what I was trying to get at was the sort of formal, technical definition of a civil war vs the more colloquial kind of vague understanding of it.

              Doing that would probably kick off a chain of events that actually would see something like various segments of various levels of the government just declaring the other ones completely illegitimate, formally, legally.

              Which is to say, it could potentially dramatically and rapidly escalate the scope and size and involved areas/regions and number of people involved and intensity of extreme violence…

              …to the point that the kind of collateral damage most Americans are accustomed to watching play out on a TV showing some other part of the world… well now its your neighborhood without food water and power and telecomms for a week or month or three…

              … now its your neighborhood that is having IEDs or drone strikes or airstrikes, that’s subject to basically a shoot on sight night time curfew.

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    4 hours ago

    Roughly 15 minutes prior to me making this comment (2:45 CST):

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2026/01/24/walz_i_have_activated_the_national_guard.html

    REPORTER: Have you activated the National Guard… can you tell us if they are going to be playing a role?

    GOV. TIM WALZ (D-MN): Yeah, yes, the answer is yes, we have, as we said last week, and we staged those troops. I’ll have General Manke talk about where they’re at, and again, use this as an opportunity to stress to Minnesotans the frustration you have, and as you saw this, they killed a man, created chaos, pushed down protesters, threw gas indiscriminately, and then left the scene, and then were left to clean up. I understand the anger.

    I understand trying to parse who were the law enforcement on the scene when you got there after a man was killed is difficult for folks who are out there, but I can’t stress enough our goal, and I’ll have General Manke talk about what the role of these Guard troops are in conjunction with incredible work from the Hennepin County Sheriff’s Office, from mutual aid across, and of course the State Patrol, of trying to get to the point where what we’re saying is we can handle this, and Minnesotans can express their First Amendment rights, and have our folks on the streets, and get these people out of here. And so, John, if you want to talk a little bit, but the answer is yes, there’s activated, he can talk to you about numbers.

  • ShimmeringKoi [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    I just spoke with the Reichstag after another horrific pogrom by federal agents this morning. Munich has had it. This is sickening

    The Chancellor must end this operation. Pull the thousands of violent untrained Schutzstaffel out. Now.