Three years ago, just weeks after the genocide began, writer Omar El Akkad posted a tweet, attached to some footage showing the extent of the ruin that Israel had already visited on Gaza. The compelling thought, crystallised in that viral tweet, would go on to become the name of his bestselling book: One Day, Everyone Will Have Always Been Against This. Steven Methven, editor of Novara Live, steps in for Aaron Bastani while he is on parental leave. He sat down with Omar to try to make sense of three years of horror. Why did Omar write his book focusing on the West’s role in the violence, rather than centring Palestine? What would meaningful accountability and justice for Palestinians look like? How does he think Hamas will be remembered? And has he found any source of hope amid the events he describes? 0:00 Introduction 2:47 Why Focus on Western Complicity? 6:23 The Danger of Looking Away 12:47 On Accountability and Justice for Palestinians 19:32 The Overton Window on Palestine Has Shifted 25:19 How Has Watching a Live Streamed Genocide Changed Us? 37:00 The World We’re Leaving the Next Generation 40:05 Hamas & the Limits of Pacifism 53:47 Defining Terrorism 58:34 On Refusing the Choice Between Trump’s Republicans and the Democrats 1:12:59 Is Real Change Happening? Performative Politics & Activist Exhaustion 1:19:40 What’s Going on With the American Right and Tucker Carlson? 1:24:46 Journalism’s Failings and Potential 1:41:07 The Roles of Art and Hope Support our work: http://novara.media/support Buy Novara Media merch: https://shop.novaramedia.com/

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