• tacosanonymous@mander.xyz
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    They hard baked calling out the president into the UCMJ. By virtue of being Commander in Chief, you really can’t publicly call him out as a service member. I remember being threatened with a court martial for speaking out against Bush.

    I’m really hoping this turns out okay for him but the deck is stacked against him. I know our most petty commander in chief is going to put pressure on this.

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      And this is the whole reason that I never would join the armed forces. I was considering an officer route and I know I could have thrived, but being told I can’t talk bad about an elected official no matter what they do? Yeah, fuck that.

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        Probably you phrased that wrong. It’s not the murdering foreign babies, it’s not the petroterrorism, it’s not the interfering with harmless sovereign nations, it’s just that you can’t run your mouth anymore?

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          I can’t speak for the op, but as someone that was very much military bound. There are all sorts of considerations about the military. I read it as relevant experience to the post.

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        You can speak ill of officials in the armed forces, you just can’t do it in uniform and you have to keep online content separate from things that identify you as military ie your insta page can’t have a bunch of stuff with you in uniform and then you calling the president a dipshit also.

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            I mean, most employers would fire you if you stood outside the store in their uniform and held up signs calling the CEO a twat also though, right? Or had it all over your socials?

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              Getting fired is a civil action not a criminal one. I’m not going to get tossed in jail for saying my boss is an asshat.

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                Yeah, military law is a thing. You get charged twice for most things, both on the civilian side and then the military side. And there’s extra things you get charged for only on the military side.

                Again, you can be in the military and call your boss an asshat… But doing it on the Capitol steps (or wherever this guy was), in uniform, is not allowed. I think that actually makes common sense, from a mutiny/discipline standpoint.

                Not trying to convince you you’re wrong and like, should have joined up or something, but I don’t think it’s unreasonable for someone’s free speech to be limited in this way.

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      Not allowed to be expressing any political opinion in uniform I don’t think.

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        He literally gave up his life’s work to make that statement. Laid down his whole life, wife and kid’s if he had them.